Country Is Using Steel Guitars Again

Writer Topic:  Future of Pedal Steel

Jim Saunders


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Houston, Texas, U.Due south.A.

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 half dozen:06 am   

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Agree your fire! I love steel guitars of all types. I own a Mullen G2 and play it often at abode. I accept regularly attended the Dallas show and several times at St. Louis. What is obvious is that a majority of steel players are getting up in the years, as I am at 83. I don't listen much to the new country music and I love the classic sound. I call up the song, "Who's Going To Take Their Place" about aging country artists. Same question on steel players who have passed on and the listing grows each yr. Now, getting to my question is this: has the steel artists not followed up and merged with pop music and the new land. Are bands not using a steel player? George Strait comes to listen and I am not going to endeavour to list them. But I do wonder about the future of the instrument.

Dustin Rhodes


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Owasso OK

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 6:51 am   

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To me I recall steel should look to what bluegrass has done. No one would say that bluegrass is "mainstream" every bit in what is electric current bit information technology has a huge following across age groups and seems to have a very successful system of bringing new people into the fold.

Jim Pitman



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Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 7:03 am   

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Seems to me the PSG's role in pop country music has non gone away completely only rather changed, god or bad.
Information technology has become more atmospheric perhaps rather than melodic.
I wonder about the evolution of country music and PSG. PSG has its identifiable eras. I'grand of that PSG generation that embraced its' transition into country stone. In fact almost of my heroes are guys like Rusty Young, Pete Kleinow, John Telephone call, Buddy Muzzle, and Bobby Black. Of those mentioned only Bobby Black is still alive as you know.
I joined a band of younger folk half my age lately. A couple of the female members have incredible voices. One was raised downward due south simply comes here to VT in the summer. Its' equally if she was raised in home with vinyl records from the 50s and 60s just. We are doing textile like Lorreta Lynn, Tammy Wynette, etc, and by golly a younger crowd appears to like it. And now, suddenly, I'm having to acquire a bunch of archetype PSG intros from the 60s, and loving information technology. All those guys are certainly dead.
Dustin, to your comment perchance pop country will wheel effectually similar bluegrass.

Jeremy King


From:
Georgia, U.s.a.

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 7:03 am   

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I think the instrument is live and well. I'grand 26 years sometime and take only been playing for three years but I immediately started doing session and live piece of work upon receiving my offset steel. Of course, this means that I was just starting to learn the basics and playing in professional situations at the same time and then I oft cringe when I hear my playing from a few years back. But overall, I feel like picking upwards the steel was the best career move I've made as a musician. I'm around Macon, Georgia (which has a stiff musical history) merely in that location aren't a lot of active players hither, especially on the younger side of the scene. I tape my fair share of Gospel and modernistic country but the folks who tend to desire steel on their songs effectually hither are the Americana artists.

I am blessed to stay as busy every bit I practise and I am grateful for this customs that has taught me so much.
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Dave Hopping


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Colorado, U.s.

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 seven:xvi am   

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I remember the future of steel guitar is much similar the future of alive music in general; information technology'southward becoming a cultural antiquity, much similar steam locomotives and 1956 T-Birds and I'grand sure there'll always be a few steel players and builders, simply as at that place are a few blacksmiths and carriage builders today.

Just had a sobering thought: We're now closer to the Beatles' centennial than we are to their Sullivan-testify debut! Whoa!

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Jim Saunders


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Houston, Texas, United states of americaA.

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 vii:17 am    Psg

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Willie besides comes to mind. At that place is merely i Willie Nelson, but classic land in Nashville didn't fit his mold, so he moved back to Texas and you know " the rest of the story".
Willie didn't follow a trend, he created ane doing all kinds of music, like Angel Flight as well Close To The Ground, Stardust, etc. Just, unfortunately he hardly always used a steel in his band. I am non suggesting we exist similar Willie; no i tin can. But, do venture out of your comfort zone.

Jim Pitman



From:
Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 9:23 am   

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Willy did have the Jimmy Day era. I know he toured with him anyhow.

Daniel Baston


From:
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 9:31 am   

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Here in Toronto steel guitar is virtually unknown to most people I would say, including many musicians and people who regularly watch live music. The few times that I accept seen anyone play steel effectually hither, it seems that audiences absolutely love it! There is a large opportunity to anyone who would want to play honky tonk or western swing type stuff too. In that location aren't any bands around here that I am aware of, that play that stuff 'well' really. There are a few amazing steel players and there is a small bluegrass scene in Toronto with some amazing players and there is a very agile jazz scene too. And then lots of talented players who might be interested in branching out and the ingredients for there to be more opportunities to go gigs for steel players and to get audiences to hear steel.

The kickoff fourth dimension I went to Nashville and heard steel guitar played at the highest level I was blown away and idea information technology was sad that so many people do not fifty-fifty go exposed to it. Not to mention all of the improvising and ring coaction that happens in a good honky tonk band.

Getting steel on the airwaves, is hard I gauge, but getting information technology into a local/live music surroundings is as uncomplicated equally getting out in that location and playing! I guess the hard office is getting practiced plenty to play out on steel. Speaking for myself, I am non quite there notwithstanding... Very Happy


Howard Parker


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Clarksburg,MD USA

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 10:04 am   

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You lot asking near steel guitar and it'due south relation to country music?

If so..Information technology is what it is.

Asking about steel guitar in Americana, folk, roots rock and but the "world of popular music".

I'd say that I'1000 busier than a beaver, if that's whatsoever indication. I continue to be shocked at inquiries.

I hope no ane figures out how mediocre my chops actually are.

I but put myself "out there" and made myself available.

In my region. It'south the "indi" scene.

ymmv
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky

Post  Posted 12 Aug 2021 11:29 am   

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I don't know that you can judge anything well-nigh it by the forum. This is only a small portion of steel players around the world, and it's by and large the elderberry gen here besides.

I see steel guitar a lot on the tv shows. There's a agglomeration of roots type music and programs where it'southward in prominent use.

Oddly, the very basic techniques and pedal bends of some of the almost amateurish players seem to exist the staples of many of the roots or americana offerings.

I don't know that the general populace even appreciates the intricate stylings and terrific renderings like we equally players do.

I think it's as well neat and unique a sound to always go away. There'll always be people playing it and you just have to accept that it's not always going to exist in the traditional country fashion nor should it take to be.


Ian Rae


From:
Redditch, England

Post  Posted 13 Aug 2021 1:38 pm    Re: Future of Pedal Steel

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Jim Saunders wrote:
Hold your fire!

Indeed. Is this thread almost the pedal steel guitar or land music? They are connected historically but they're non the same thing. Our band plays no land music at all but the steel is still an integral part of the sound.

Traditional E9 playing grew out of a particular musical culture but a universal steel, sometimes with a conventional tone, or using effects to masquerade as a Fender Rhodes or a Hammond, is a musical tool of great power for rock, soul and reggae.

I've turned 70 now, but the futurity looks bright Smile
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Walter Webb



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California, The states

Post  Posted 13 Aug 2021 2:00 pm   

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Accordions were supposedly left for dead years agone, but they are cooler than cool now. Everything that goes around comes effectually.

Larry Brawl


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Airdrie, Alberta, Canada

Post  Posted 13 Aug 2021 3:22 pm   

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Amen…Ian Rae
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Donny Hinson



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Post  Posted 13 Aug 2021 four:18 pm   

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Walter Webb wrote:
Accordions were supposedly left for dead years ago, but they are cooler than cool now. Everything that goes around comes around.

Simply...they got simpler. (Well, actually, the simpler versions of them regained popularity)

Such is not the case with pedal steel...yet. Winking


Daniel McKee



From:
Corinth Mississippi

Post  Posted 13 Aug 2021 6:34 pm   

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Its not expressionless but certainly not common in certain areas. But its availability tin be limited. For example in this current time with setbacks due to covid-xix many companies had issue sourcing cloth. I ordered a steel last year and was told 8 months. That was last June and I still dont have it. I am very into pedal steel and kinda sympathise their setbacks but anyone ordering a new steel might be seriously put off by that. New steels in general arent an overnight order detail (as with many instruments I realize) but our globe does have some quirks similar that, of course we go it only someone not that familiar notwithstanding might not sympathize. Go to any music store and ask for pedal steel strings......90 percent merely dont carry that.

that existence said Its very much live merely I have my doubts it volition ever reach an audience every bit big as guitars/ pianos and such have found.


Andrew Frost


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Toronto, Ontario

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Post  Posted 14 Aug 2021 4:10 am   

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Offset Assist Kit seems to have alot of pedal steel. They're not on the haemorrhage edge of pop, merely notwithstanding. I by and large find that younger people love the pedal steel. Most of them that I play to don't have a deep noesis of country music (and I'k in New England), so they don't usually bring that association to the musical instrument. Susan Alcorn is one of the well-known players up hither.
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James Quillian


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San Antonio, Texas, USA

Post  Posted xiv Aug 2021 12:22 pm   

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My take is that the steel has not become unpopular. The problem is that styles like classic land or no longer popular on a larger calibration.

A lot of this is due to the fact the power structure in in Nashville has become grossly concentrated and decadent. Play lists are now standardized and squelch anything that sounds genuinely state.

If a few people tin can decide what is available to mind to that turns out to be very profitable for those at the pinnacle.

The music manufacture is a rigged market just as is healthcare, banking, insurance and big tech.

Then far, folks don't heed.That presents a trouble for the few who do care.

Large markets in the U.S.are structured in the United States in ways where producers determine what people buy and what is available.

This is the opposite of the way economical decisions are made in a free market setting. Leave the free market and there is less available, prices are higher and well-nigh money flows to the top.

Every bit long as the music industry is rigged, folks are not going to hear a lot of steel in songs.

If what people heard on the radio was based on personal tastes and preferences, older artists would exist heard regularly. Basically, the steel is not allowed to be pop. Your betters decide what is on the radio. They don't hate the steel. At that place are just new sounds that people can be herded into listening to and this is where the profit is.
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David Ball


From:
Due north Carolina High Country

Post  Posted fourteen Aug 2021 1:05 pm   

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But I retrieve the whole Indie movement has left plenty of room for the steel. Being able to record and release from your bedroom or wherever has changed the scene of music. I've done steel tracks for people I'll probably never meet, recording in my basement and aircraft out tracks via dropbox.

There's still demand, and I think that in today'south environment, traditional commercial venues accept been marginalized to some degree. There's a demand for Americana music, and almost of that is coming from Indies the all-time I can tell.

It may exist an underground thing, but the demand for steel is even so there. But there's still no coin in it....

Dave


Dustin Rhodes


From:
Owasso OK

James Quillian


From:
San Antonio, Texas, USA

Post  Posted 14 Aug 2021 1:50 pm   

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True, only the major marketplace is closed. In a globe with over seven billion people in information technology masses of folks who follow independents is not drop in in the bucket.

It takes ordinary people every bit listeners to make an instrument popular. One of the instruments I play is the English concertina. there are enthusiasts all over the globe who appreciate the instrument.

Yeah, there are niche audiences who similar the classic sound, only that is far less than what we would have in a free and open up music market.

David Ball wrote:
But I call back the whole Indie m
ovement has left plenty of room for the steel. Existence able to tape and release from your bedroom or wherever has changed the scene of music. I've done steel tracks for people I'll probably never meet, recording in my basement and shipping out tracks via dropbox.

There's still demand, and I remember that in today's environment, traditional commercial venues have been marginalized to some degree. There'southward a need for Americana music, and most of that is coming from Indies the best I can tell.

It may be an secret matter, but the demand for steel is notwithstanding there. But in that location's notwithstanding no money in information technology....

Dave


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J R Rose


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Post  Posted 15 Aug 2021 vi:37 am   

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I recollect James Quillian nailed it in his offset mail service. The Producer's call the shots, what you sing, how you sing information technology. There is no classic land sound being recorded out of Nashville today. If it does it never gets promoted. Then you got the young teenagers who get drop off at the Mall past Mom and a pocket total coin and estimate what kind of CD's they buy. That is the ones the producers cater as well. It is all virtually money. Their is only a small amount of young folks who like the steel, pedals or not. And then they become made fun of by their peers, you like that sometime hillbilly junk they say. Eddie Dunlap is 1 of the few that truly loves pure country music and is a fine young man. Their are a few others out their but I cannot think their names. For the most function sometime timers like me when nosotros are gone then volition pure country music. J.R. Rose
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Post  Posted 15 Aug 2021 8:23 am   

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I never hear it on my radio, merely I have institute some fantastic songs and arrangements using the steel guitar out of Texas. It is on the internet. Texas has some nifty steel players. In that location are some new artist and songs being recorded in that location.
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James Quillian


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Post  Posted fifteen Aug 2021 8:29 am   

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Thank you JR, information technology is rare that anyone always agrees with me on much of anything.

I will go on to say that it seems, the young artists in today's rigged music marketplace are forced to take lessons in how to sound country. These folks audio more country than than those of years ago did, admitting phony.

I don't come across that the classic audio was ever actually abandoned. It is more than that information technology has been taken away from folks who appreciate it and would expand on it.

J R Rose wrote:
I call back James Quillian nailed it in his first post. The Producer's call the shots, what you sing, how you sing it. There is no archetype country audio existence recorded out of Nashville today. If it does information technology never gets promoted. And so yous got the immature teenagers who get drop off at the Mall by Mom and a pocket full money and guess what kind of CD's they buy. That is the ones the producers cater too. It is all nearly money. Their is only a small corporeality of young folks who like the steel, pedals or non. And and so they get made fun of by their peers, you like that old hillbilly junk they say. Eddie Dunlap is one of the few that truly loves pure land music and is a fine young man. Their are a few others out their but I cannot remember their names. For the most part quondam timers similar me when we are gone so will pure country music. J.R. Rose

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